Stop Me Before I Vote Again

Surely, you jest. This whole thing is simply a new advance in the Selling of the President.

The handlers are smart. This kind of PR cuts a lot of ice with the Air America crowd.

Hey Rush Limbaugh.

You're bringing me right back to the 90s. It's like Hillary threw a lamp at Bill, right?

I'm guessing Obama also had Vince Foster killed, right?

My favorite protest sign during the Bush years was "Will Someone Please Give Him a Blowjob So We Can Impeach Him".

Laura and George, that was such a perfect marriage. I don't think I remember hearing even one story like this during either Bush term.

Oh, I think I do remember some speculation about Bush and Condi when Condi made a Freudian slip and called him "my husband". But that was mostly on the Internets. For the most part, the Bush marriage was considered off limits by the media.

And that Alternet writer has to be a world class idiot.

I didn't live 200 years ago, but I venture they didn't. And though I can't prove it, I venture most were happier as a result. The cultural machine that pumps out stories about love and relationships, that raises our hopes and expectations beyond what is humanly possible, creates little other than heartbreak.

Are there no history books? It's not as if the founding fathers couldn't write or keep diaries. In fact, I think there was this guy named Ben Franklin who wrote all about it.

And Mr. Alternet writer. Tisk. Tisk. Remember all those books and movies that came out in the 1990s about Thomas Jefferson (re Bill Clinton) raping Sally Hemmings (re whoever the other woman of the week was back then).

Yeah, I guess white men from the south were happier back then when they could get a little extra on the side from their slave girls with or without permission.

(hey kind of like the way most Trotskyites and other ultra leftists think 48 year old Polish dudes should be able to have their way with little California girls)

Women couldn't vote back then either. But it was all good.

My favorite protest sign during the Bush years was "Will Someone Please Give Him a Blowjob So We Can Impeach Him".

Then I bet it had to sting when Nancy Pelosi declared that "impeachment is off the table."

So... what was the point of having that 2006 midterm Democratic majority?

Ah wait. It's MS Alternet writer.

I think she's read one of those classic "how to pretend you've read Anna Karinina" guides".

How else to account for this?

Remember in Anna Karenina, when Levin says of his wife, Kitty, that there's no point getting mad at your wife because it's like getting mad at yourself, since you're like one person? In psychobabble, that's called "co-dependence," and it's bad news for mental and relationship health, but somehow it is sometimes synonymous with true love.

Hmm. MS Alternet write. Remember in Anna Karinina when Kitty put off the marriage to Levin for several years because she wanted to marry Vronsky instead? But Vronsky fell in love with the Anna of the title because they both wanted "perfect romance" but as we all know it didn't work out.

(ps stay away from trains)

And remember how Kitty came back to Levin, a kind of socially inept conservative landowner, and they lived happily but not so perfectly ever after thus setting up a contrast between not so glamerous Levin and glamorous Vronsky?

And remember how Levin's opinions changed like 100 times per week and how that little speculation about how your wife is just another version of you would have been the thought of the moment?

And remember how Levin went to work in the fields with the peasants and got all nicely tired and saw Kitty's face through her carriage in the morning and decided that hell, maybe her little flirtation with Vronsky wasn't all that unforgivable after all?

Uggh. You HAD to link this silly article, didn't you. Now I'm actually going to have to read that NY Times piece.

Then I bet it had to sting when Nancy Pelosi declared that "impeachment is off the table."

Why? We all know Bush never got a blow job. So how could you impeach him?

And anyone who was dumb enough to believe that the Democrats were actually going to impeach Bush was probably writing for "After Downing Street" and named "David Swanson".

The possibility of impeachment was always just a way to keep the activist dollars flowing in. David Swanson just published an "Obama is as bad as Bush" book, btw. That's the new "trolling for idiot dollars" line. "Obama is as bad as Bush."

But HEY. It must have REALLY stung for the Limbaughesque right and their ultra leftist enablers when Bill and Hillary DIDN'T get divorced after 2000 and when they turned out to have a real marriage after all.

Ouch.

The SMBIVA pet pwogwessive peon is full tantrum mode. Somebody get the jellyfish a zoloft and a copy of La Nation.

partnerless pwog
in lieu
starts another jag

nice to see conflict so easily resolved
when the same butt hole plays all roles

ps reading anna K
has not improved u pwog
and u mobilizing poor LT 's 3D puppets
just to play chorus
to another one of your fishy nude swims here

nude and by the light of a cynical moon

well "poor LT "

Actually everybody here reminds me a bit of Kitty while she still had her cruch on Count Vronsky.

Oh, the Democrats, poor, dull Levin isn't good enough for her or any of you. Clinton, Obama, they both know how to win elections and mobilize the intellectuals, but that's not enough. You want revolution dammit, glamor, the heroic. You all want a Lenin or a Danton or a John Brown to come and sweep you all off your girlish feet and carry you over the threshold to revolution.

But none of you will ever progress to what Kitty turned into after she got over Vronsky and married nice dull Levin. None of you will find the strength to visit your husbands dying brother or the maturity to raise nice aristocratic Russian children.

Nope. You'll all end up like Ralph Nader, old spinsters, still pining for Warren Buffet.

pwog what is about lesser evil refuseniks
that so irks you ??

in my case its purely a choice in tactics
i can well imagine a context in which defensive tactics might well
suggest "backing an obama"
but that context is not now's context
despite hysterics about the growing
menace of right reaction here at home

it's my judgement this is hardly
'weimar twilight time ' here in amerika

tough choices exist
i think of iran or russia or china
where attack the empire
is not a sufficient guide
to sorting out one's path

but like venezuela cuba bolivia
the choice of paths here is crystal clear

obama is a white hat emperor
we live in that empire's belly
we must ulcerate it
as best we can

class struggle mission?

that thank good we can engage in
first hand on the spot
both where we work and rest

attack the empire and its running pwogs

we live in that empire's belly
we must ulcerate it
as best we can

Problem is you can't even manage a wet fart.

Now I realize that when we're dealing with the American "left" it's always a bit difficult even to talk about strategy because there's always some faction splitting off from a faction splitting off from another faction and everybody accusing every else of not being sufficiently radical enough.

I think I lost my patience once and for all when I started reading "leftists" talking about how Amy Goodman was a secret Zionist and a "left gatekeeper".

But be that as it may, let's take that crowd, Greenwald, Ms. Goodman, Helen Thomas, Jeremy Scahill, your reasonable inelligent lefties who aren't curled up in a corner shouting about the illuminati.

Let's take our friend David Swanson of After Downing Street. From 2000-2008, he spent his time trying to impeach Bush. He didn't get anywhere. Now he's come out with a new book about Obama. Guess what. He thinks Obama is as bad as Bush. Well, I guess in some sense, Trajan was as bad as Commodus and Augustus Caeser as bad as Caligula.

But in the end, it's all a scam to keep raising money and getting free labor from innocent college kids who don't know it's all a dead end.

And the more radical crowd, the 9/11 Truther, followers of Ramsey Clark, anarchists and Trots of various sorts, the people who ARE curled up in the corner shouting about the illunati, what are they all about?

I once asked 10 Marxist Newspaper hawkers at an anti-war demo what they were actually for. Every one was for the SAME two things, "buy my newspaper" and "let's build a revolutionary party". And they all hated one another.

Phww. You want to be radical? Try at least being competant first.

You know what really makes a difference? Try Corzine vs. Christie. Corzine may be a dull billionaire but at least he won't break the unions or refuse stimulus money for unemployment checks. At least the Democrats in New Jersey banned the death penalty.

Any of you accomplish anything remotely close to "banning the death penalty"?

Here we go. Here's a wonderful endorsement of Jon Corzine by today's New York Post.

Why can't you rich ultra lefties support the sans-culottes of Newark and Camden againt all the little Marie Antoinettes out in Bernardsville and Uppper Saddle River?

Perhaps it's because (except for a few chic Euro Lefty issues like Palestine) you're all Marie Antoinettes yourself?

To understand how voting patterns work, look at who pays for government in Jersey, and who benefits. The state has one of the most progressive income tax structures, so that residents earning more than $250,000 in 2007 (the last year data are available) constituted just 3.9% of all households but paid 59% of state income taxes. And these folks will pay an even bigger share of the burden this year because Corzine raised their tax rates and cut some of their deductions.

That money is used to pay for government and school systems in cities like Camden and Newark. The state, for instance, pays more than 90% of the bill for the Camden school system, one reason why the schools there can spend a whopping $22,000 per student. So it’s no wonder that Camden residents will support Corzine against any candidate who promises to rein in state spending. In one poll, 61% of the state’s urban dwellers said they would vote for Corzine

Cripes, op! I think you made our little pwog here pee his pants with rage. He's slipped back into thanksRalphing and tiny fisted tantrums about obscure imaginary slights.

I mean, fuck, he's even resorted to making up shitty little stories to keep up his redfaced conniption and pathetic bragging about all the wonderful things "his" party has done. No wonder the spineless turdball is a dumbass Obot.

pwog
support ??

meaning what ??

volunteer time ???
send money ???

what you claim is at stake simply isn't
that is not a lefty view its an assertion of fact

proof
the systems spits it out daily
repub or dem
on the big issues its same old same old
with only a few twists

hysterical hyping or hoping
don't change that

i suggest swe raise hel where we can on the job in the community

talk about out of it
you strike me
like the baby furiously and proudly turning the baby wheel in dad's car

even SNL "gets it" obama is continuing the empire

as to state politics and the union movement

that's a whole other game

no one here suggests reform movements are useless or even diversionary

it's only touting the dembots
ultimately
that gets condemned

ps your notions of the left
strike me aas selective
thank god noah had a broader view of the animals worth saving

why waste your time trying to shame us
get back to the corzine campaign

or are you trying to mobilize us
for lesser evilers
as u point out
there aren't enough of us to matter

get back to the jack ass phone bank brother

its odd how the normal rock and roll
of the empire in motion looks like victory
to pwogs

the tide comes in and goes out

the death penalty is passe out there in the great ocean

morbid centrist surf riders like
you governor canute
can no more take credit
for the tide going out on the electric chair
then stop the tide coming back in

You know what really makes a difference? Try Corzine vs. Christie. Corzine may be a dull billionaire but at least he won't break the unions or refuse stimulus money for unemployment checks. At least the Democrats in New Jersey banned the death penalty.

Any of you accomplish anything remotely close to "banning the death penalty"?

Why kill criminals when you can enslave them, especially for minor drug offenses? Your hero Corzine is all in favor of fighting the terrorist War on Drugs the way we fight the drugged-out War on Terror, not that anyone can tell the difference.

"The war on drugs should be fought just like terrorism," Corzine said, noting that drugs have disproportionately affected communities like Irvington.

That means the government should use similar tactics in ferreting out terrorists -- infiltration and intelligence gathering -- to ferret out drugs.

http://www.mapinc.org/newscsdp/v01/n1735/a09.html

Well, no wonder the War on Whatever is a failure: it isn't being run by Democrats. But don't worry, His Holiness Saint Obushma and the Forces of Obligatory American Democracy (FOAD) will succeed where Bush has failed, so long as you have faith, brothers and sisters.

hey kind of like the way most Trotskyites and other ultra leftists think 48 year old Polish dudes should be able to have their way with little California girls

Funny, PWOG, but I'm an ultra-leftist anarchist supporter of Narcissist Nadertraitor and I think the Polish dude should face prison. It's just that I have this peculiar notion that war criminals like the Clintons and Obama ought to be jailed alongside him, rather than being praised for their atrocities 'cause they do crime better than the right-wing "opposition." Loathsome as the Polish dude is, he isn't sending drones into Af-Pak and he's never made a movie with Afleck, so he ain't all bad.

...so he ain't all bad.

Well, there is such a thing as lack of opportunity, but never mind. :/

Pwog would rise to defend God-Emperor Obama, but he's busy watching Gigli in his Daredevil under-roos.

Why kill criminals when you can enslave them, especially for minor drug offenses? Your hero Corzine is all in favor of fighting the terrorist War on Drugs the way we fight the drugged-out War on Terror, not that anyone can tell the difference.

Apples and Oranges. Different issues.

But it seems as if you're arguing that until the drug laws are changed the state should continue to execute people, that society moves from hell to perfect in one fell swoop or it doesn't move at all.

Why not just admit that banning the death penalty in New Jersey was a genuine accomplishment and that the Republicans wouldn't have done it?

There will never be a Cameron Todd Willingham in the state of New Jersey.

Now on to the New York Posts argument that Corzine is soaking the rich and giving it to the poor. Sounds good to me. Call him Governer Robin Hood. If the New York Post is wrong, I'd like to know. I was hoping I'd get some good arguments from you guys about why Corzine isn't soaking the rich.

But if he is, rock on.

Loathsome as the Polish dude is, he isn't sending drones into Af-Pak and he's never made a movie with Afleck, so he ain't all bad.

Apples and Oranges.

I was commenting on the Alternet writer's assertion that "we" were happier back in the days of the founding fathers because "we" didn't have unreal expectations about marriage.

I then brought up the obvious fact that Michelle Obama back in 1776 wouldn't have been able to say "no" to Jesse Helmes or Strom Thurmond any more than Samantha Geimer had the power to say "no" to Roman Polanski.

It's about sexual privilage, kind of like, well, you know, the good old days back in the 1960s when you could get laid for throwing a Molotov cocktail or two and the same girl who sucked your dick would also get you coffee and type up your latest manifesto about smashing the state.

the death penalty is passe out there in the great ocean

States that don't have the death penalty.

Alaska (1957)
Hawaii (1948)
Iowa (1965)
Maine (1887)
Massachusetts (1984)
Michigan (1846)
Minnesota (1911)
North Dakota (1973)
New Jersey (2007)
New Mexico* (2009)
New York (2007)#
Rhode Island (1984)**
Vermont (1964)
West Virginia (1965)
Wisconsin (1853)
Dist. of Columbia (1981)

I have to say I was a little surprised at the fact that there were so many swing states. And I was also surprised that New York, Connecticut and New Hampshire have the death penalty.

But if you look at "number of executions by state" it's clear that the states that actually kill the most people are all dominated by Republicans.

TEXAS 442
VIRGINIA 103
OKLAHOMA 91
MISSOURI 67
FLORIDA 68

So let's here it for another Polish (American) dude, Ray Lesniak, the DEMOCRAT who led the fight in New Jersey to ban said abomination.

Democrats only approve of the death penalty if it can be administered extrajudicially and from a drone aircraft. Go Dems!

Ya know, it's kind of interesting to watch a pwog root around in statistics. In a chimp-playing-with-a-slide-rule kind of way, I mean.

Well, it's just like any liberal site that whips out the statistics on our food 'n birth control giveaways in the "developing world" whenever an actual Lefty gets snippy about all our bombs 'n stuff. It doesn't matter that what we spend to save people will never be a patch on what we spend to kill their neighbors one border over. Or that the "dead" tally is always thousands of points over the "live" tally.

Look look! We're saving people! We're nice, see? Bombs? What bombs? There are no bombs and anyway the Republicans drop bombs and don't pass out any condoms at all! We're nice! You don't want the Chinese given free rein, do you? We're NICE!! You went to an Ivy League school and I got punched out by a biker once! So shut up!!

But it seems as if you're arguing that until the drug laws are changed the state should continue to execute people, that society moves from hell to perfect in one fell swoop or it doesn't move at all.

Seems like you're creating a strawman, but thanks for invoking the old "baby steps" argument. We can't expect radical change, ever. We must think long-term, like, another century or two. If we go from the 9th level of Hell to the 8th, that's progress and it's even progress of we go from the 8th to the 9th, so long as a Dem is in charge. Anyone who thinks we should aim for something tangible is a bomb-throwing anarchist radical.

Why not just admit that banning the death penalty in New Jersey was a genuine accomplishment and that the Republicans wouldn't have done it?

Maybe because I'm not under the delusion that jailing teenagers for minor drug offenses is somehow more civilized than executing people. Personally, I'd prefer the death penalty to losing my freedom for 25 years and getting gang-raped in prison because I had an ounce of coke on me.

Why not just admit that Mussolini getting the trains to run on time was a good thing and leave it at that?

In states where the public isn't that keen on the death penalty, the death penalty isn't a big deal. In states where they love it, politicians of both "parties" love it too. The definitive Democratic Party take on the death penalty can be summed up in three words: Ricky Ray Rector.

I then brought up the obvious fact that Michelle Obama back in 1776 wouldn't have been able to say "no" to Jesse Helmes or Strom Thurmond any more than Samantha Geimer had the power to say "no" to Roman Polanski.

Women always have the power to say "no," it's just that rapists are not obliged to respect their lack of assent. That is as true in the Arkansas governor's mansion as it was in Monticello.

It's about sexual privilage, kind of like, well, you know, the good old days back in the 1960s when you could get laid for throwing a Molotov cocktail or two and the same girl who sucked your dick would also get you coffee and type up your latest manifesto about smashing the state.

Pretty active fantasy life you got there, Che. But thanks to the wonders of predatory capitalism, there is no shortage of women out there who will suck your dick for $20 and you don't even have to risk throwing a molotov at the pigs. Thank God we got liberals like Bill and Hillary and The One out there fighting for the little people and pushing welfare and health care reform so no woman has to turn tricks to keep a roof over her family's head, eh?

There will never be a Cameron Todd Willingham in the state of New Jersey.

Well, the cops could always just execute the next guy on the streets, claim he was a drug-dealer and then everyone will be happy.

But I bet there will be a few Leandro Andrades in Jersey thanks to liberals like Corzine, who favors New Jersey's "three strikes" laws. Let's remember it was "liberal" California that was one of the first states to push these bullshit laws and not the evil conservatives.

On November 4, 1995, Andrade stole five videotapes from a K-Mart store in Ontario, California. Two weeks later, he stole four videotapes from a different K-Mart store in Montclair, California. Andrade had been in and out of the state and federal prison systems since 1982. By the time of these two crimes in 1995, he had been convicted of petty theft, residential burglary, transportation of marijuana, and escape from prison. As a result of these prior convictions, the prosecution charged Andrade with two counts of petty theft with a prior conviction, which under California law can either be a felony or a misdemeanor. Under California's three strikes law, any felony can serve as the third "strike" and thereby expose the defendant to a mandatory sentence of 25 years to life in prison....As a result of his prior convictions, Andrade was sentenced to two consecutive terms of 25 years to life in prison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leandro_Andrade

"Supports mandatory Three Strikes sentencing laws. (Sep 2000)"
http://www.ontheissues.org/Jon_Corzine.htm

Funny how health care reform has everyone whimpering about something they're going to be and have been paying for.
Year after year more crime, more cops, longer sentences, more prisons, bigger gangs and some asshole politician who promises to fight crime harder.
A life of crime even comes with alcohol pads to disinfect before administering lethal injection.
Guy who tries, given the choice, fuck em'! Make him lie, cheat and steal for it like a real American.