By Michael J. Smith on Saturday February 20, 2010 09:26 AM
Right in the middle of a spate of Uni-bashing, this came across my screen, on a dead-languages mailing list I subscribe to:
"Teaching Difficult Subjects in the Classics Classroom" An APA(*) Workshop[.....] We propose a workshop with 5 brief presentations (10 minutes) on particular situations, with materials to help faculty in the classroom. This workshop would follow up on the very successful roundtable and workshop on teaching rape at the 2008 and 2009 APA meetings; we would like to broaden the discussion out at this time. Ancient texts raise a variety of issues--slavery, infanticide, adoption, abortion, rape, abuse, incest, sexuality--that may be difficult to discuss in a classroom where some students will have had personal experiences that might make them uncomfortable.And since the whole goal of a Uni education is to make people comfortable, in every sense of the word....
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(*) American Philological Association.
Comments (13)
Learned societies are great for this. It's like they net all the worst foolishness in the field, and then release it in concentrated bursts at the annual meeting.
And as a rule of thumb, any roundtable discussion on teaching at any academic conference whatsoever is going to really bring the stupid. So this APA session was doubly doomed from the start.
That said, it's unclear what students have been reading in their free time if even "sexuality" constitutes uncomfortable and therefore (one assumes) unfamiliar terrain.
Posted by eugyppius | February 20, 2010 11:17 AM
Posted on February 20, 2010 11:17
The system is chock full of this kind of stuff. It's make-work being peddled by those "scholars" who "care" about their issues, but lack the first clue about how to make a real contribution to public knowledge or their students' capacity to confront the world.
Posted by Michael Dawson | February 20, 2010 12:33 PM
Posted on February 20, 2010 12:33
"lack the first clue about how to make a real contribution to public knowledge "
as the lord of hullabaloo
van mingo noticed
that goes for me too md
and i suspect a few others here as well
" how to make a real contribution to .. their students' capacity to confront the world"
again moi
with one word change
readers for students
Posted by op | February 20, 2010 12:59 PM
Posted on February 20, 2010 12:59
Perhaps playing devil's advocate but mightn't something like this be a reaction to potential legal and job security issues related to those poor, uncomfortable students.
I work at an Ivy League university and about a year ago, I was taken through hell by an employee, a grad of the university and a pathological narcissist, who, because i gave her a less-than-perfect performance review embarked on a character assassination campaign. This campaign was based on one conversation in which I had used the phrase 'anal sex' in a casual discussion of the most popular key word searches on a health site at the university. We work in web development and I was discussing the implications of building navigations based on user statistics. It took two months to get the whole thing sorted.
Posted by michael | February 20, 2010 2:02 PM
Posted on February 20, 2010 14:02
Perhaps playing devil's advocate but mightn't something like this be a reaction to potential legal and job security issues related to those poor, uncomfortable students.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. A lot of this is probably just appeasement of the professional outrage junkie crowd that is always on the lookout for stuff to get upset about. Unfortunately the more you appease them the worse they get.
Posted by Sean | February 20, 2010 3:49 PM
Posted on February 20, 2010 15:49
"the professional outrage junkie "
a certain variety of that species
haunts this site from time to time
adding as much glee as dudgeon
and leaving us regulars
straining after our fleeing Sprezzatura
i recall the infamous
roman p incident
now that was quite
pwogie policemans' brawl
mucho sanctimony was spilled there alright
the recent brannigan over
madame lacewell-racewell
queen of the critical antipodes
hardly reached
that one's door sill
Posted by op | February 20, 2010 4:35 PM
Posted on February 20, 2010 16:35
"pathological narcissist"
the ultima :
http://tiff.net/blogs/archivedimages/Midnight%20Madness%20Blog/MM08_Sexykiller%20glenn%20close.jpg
Posted by op | February 20, 2010 4:39 PM
Posted on February 20, 2010 16:39
i recall the infamous
roman p incident
now that was quite
pwogie policemans' brawl
There's a world of difference between getting outraged over an actual rape and a mere discussion of the concept. If that was your daughter who was raped, you'd be inclined to a harder justice than that offered by your average "pwoggie policeman."
mucho sanctimony was spilled there alright
Mucho sanctimony indeed, but of the leftier-than-thou variety.
Posted by Sean | February 20, 2010 6:48 PM
Posted on February 20, 2010 18:48
i knew that would draw u out sean
thank u for making my point
rage on oh man of god
Posted by op | February 20, 2010 9:51 PM
Posted on February 20, 2010 21:51
You opened with a cheap shot and got a cheap shot back. Predictable? Trolls everywhere stand in awe of your divine augury, great arbiter of leftist purity. That there's a certain irony in the predictability of your response, seems to have escaped your flawless vision.
Not that I had a point to make, but you made a point for me anyway.
Posted by Sean | February 20, 2010 11:16 PM
Posted on February 20, 2010 23:16
sean
why so prickle pussy ???
i'm your mate even when we disagree
Posted by op | February 22, 2010 8:53 AM
Posted on February 22, 2010 08:53
I work at an Ivy League university and about a year ago, I was taken through hell by an employee, a grad of the university and a pathological narcissist, who, because i gave her a less-than-perfect performance review embarked on a character assassination campaign.
shades of Mamet's "Oleanna."
Posted by CF Oxtrot | February 22, 2010 11:14 AM
Posted on February 22, 2010 11:14
Why the over-passionate pigeonholing of perceived pwoggie policemen from the peanut gallery of past posts there, partner? It was you who invoked the whole Roman P imbroglio, not me. Not to suggest this has anything to do with your ability to tolerate disagreement.
And the trollish triumphalism? "Ooh, I got you to react the way I predicted you would!" I'd have thought this was beneath you, you cheeky Nostradamus, you.
Posted by Sean | February 22, 2010 2:57 PM
Posted on February 22, 2010 14:57