By Michael J. Smith on Sunday May 13, 2012 10:21 PM
From a mailing list. Peter Beinart and Michael Lerner. Oy gevalt!
Comments (6)
A comment by someone at the receiving end of Israel's project of bringing Light unto the Nations carries more common sense than the pretzel logic of these rubbery pugilists:
This good cop/bad cop routine has been going on for decades (e.g. openly Fascist Jabotinsky vs. the "Socialist" Ben Gurion, see Lenni Brenner's take on this fixed wrestling match). The script remains the same, the cast keep changing. Here for instance are the "dovish" anti-Netenyahu, Tzipi Livni's plans for the remaining "non-Jews" in the Heimat
Posted by sk | May 14, 2012 1:03 AM
Posted on May 14, 2012 01:03
great stuff:
"J Street on its website asserts, ”J Street believes that Iran obtaining nuclear weapons would pose a very serious threat to American and Israeli interests and to peace and stability in the Middle East and around the world.” Do you agree with that position?
Beinart: Yes, I agree with that..... I don’t think that a military attack on Iran is a constructive response, but do support efforts to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons."
----then comes this worm turn----
"Beinart: There was no realistic possibility for the U.S. to stop the Soviet Union from getting nuclear weapons. There is such a possibility with Iran...."
sooooo if it fails and iran gets its big one what then pete ?
Posted by op | May 14, 2012 8:48 AM
Posted on May 14, 2012 08:48
"fixed wrestling match"
i love that figure for establishment
inner tussles
but sometimes the exact outcome is more specfied then other times
i think of the fall bank bail out of '08
and othertimes there are just rules and ropes and non contact blows
who wins then ?
i actually think the opinion of the elite majority
example
mitt versus ohbummer
neither is taking a dive here
nor has the balloting been fully rigged...so far
there is room for an elite majority to form on one side or the other
i think of carter reagan
there was a brief interval that september when
the elite majority decided to
"let reagan win"
Posted by op | May 14, 2012 9:50 AM
Posted on May 14, 2012 09:50
ever too close to call ?
sure
think kennedy nixon
both acceptable to the majority
nothing to that choice at all
but the reformation of the canal treaty with panama
or nafta
full fix !!!
i wish we could have a moment
like papa's call for a referendum on
the draft austerity package
a moment like that
when the people of greece
saw their "formal "democracy over ruled
by the guardians of the euro project
if we get another split between the electoral and the popular vote
i think the guardians will again
let the two sides "play it out "
Posted by op | May 14, 2012 9:57 AM
Posted on May 14, 2012 09:57
Following sk's comment, Beinart might be the bad cop, but the "progressive" J Street is playing its role. Global threat?
Posted by Happy Jack | May 14, 2012 12:21 PM
Posted on May 14, 2012 12:21
Palestinian and Israeli activists have pretty good street smarts when it comes to figuring out where the really dangerous racists hang out:
Posted by sk | May 14, 2012 3:21 PM
Posted on May 14, 2012 15:21