water under the sand dunes

By Owen Paine on Tuesday July 31, 2012 10:47 AM

a belated response to a comment query :


"... there’s all that newly discovered water lying underneath Africa"

i must say that line has time capsule quality now doesn't it ?.....

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let that big screen in your had envision this...the next inter - great power race :

the rush to fresh water ... under the jungle !.!

at long last the final resource frontier is in sight ....some where ahead
huge gleaming tankers plow the 7 seas on their way
to distributing pure african spring water

-------hey i can big it ...recall new england pond ice ?
a staple of 19th century trade ----

so now we not only meter our water ..we'll have to import it.. ... "at the margin"

for real kids ?

well maybe ...just maybe

as my uncle 'nolo contendre' paine used to grumble -roar :

"ittttt .... could get to that owen ! " (usually over a schooner of 'gansett' )

but not i think ,dear enquirer , b4 much else goes boing boing in the nite
here on this market infested planet

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as to the "that huge fossil water aquifer Libya sits on"

to " corporatize" that and at a modest rate fee
pump it up and onto the surrounding sand dunes
to grow winter wheat or iowa corn or soyabeans or bagels fopr that matter

i can categorically state such an undertaking
would amount to folly even beyond nikita's virgin lands crusade


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end note:

a fine old teutonic eco-sage once speculated on that vey topic
-- sub saharan fossil water--

" pump it out and its gone for good ......but hey we are on the short path
to becoming MARS II anyway ..
.so what the fuck.. ..go right ahead
knock your self out
mr business man "

"i'll belch to that "
as my uncle Nolo might say
t'is always a fine notion ....you know....
taking the long view and all
tends to resign the spirits

Comments (10)

anne shew:

owen, i'll put my wee lettering response to something up here ,it would get lost with the mike f below, of the nony response to my odd writing , i got stuck on their using your u u u 's , /and i was wondering on the .. of eau as well after her mention

diane:

Thanks (finally, jeeeeeshh .... sticks tongue out at MF for my unforgivable, apparently, attention to consideration. He’ll surely miss it when it’s totally gone, ..as who will be there to battle for the right to make more for what he does on his job than the lil tom ladies who have always generally made far less than him (at least those in his age bracket) for the same work, if they were even considered for the job.). ..... Though, I hadn’t requested an entire new arena, I had thought it would fit nicely where it began.

It had started really pin pointing for me when Hawk Hillary, in March, made such loud snorting about the UZ Parenting the DIRE Water Issue ....(gotta run currently, but will return).

Al Schumann:

I've argued before that the corporate model emphasizes destruction of value over extraction and exploitation of natural resources. They seek devastation with the zeal of dispensationalists backed by armies and government subsidies. Industrial agriculture, as it actually exists, may be the best supporting evidence for my argument. There's much more profit and many more markets in the so-called "green" agricultural capitalism, but the pie would be divided in ways that increase absolute wealth at a faster rate than relative wealth. That simply won't do.

Bull Lee had them pegged when he said they were frightened little men, obsessed with control, who relied on toadying experts to comfort them.

diane:

Well I know next to nothing about the difference in say the difficulties of extraction from the Ogallala Aquifer versus a fossil water aquifer extraction, or the differences in running pipe in different terrains; but Pickens ( www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/4275059 ) recently sold his Ogallala water rights ( www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9O27VD80.htm ) to Texas last year for water extraction ( perhaps due to court battles? amarillo.com/news/local-news/2011-01-06/mesa-requests-new-trial ), so it’s certainly doable in some instances.

Along with the exponentially increasing UZ military expansion in Africa, and Hillary’s recent ‘Water Wars’ implication ( www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2012/03/23/us-predicts-water-wars ), it seemed to me that water maybe at least part of the reason (along with, perhaps, “rare earths” also?). After all, fresh water is ultimately more precious to survival than oil and the UZCorp might be highly interested in that ownership and control, as it’s certainly historically been interested in so many other resources in Africa.

And yeah Al, I so agree with you about the destruction in the corporate model, there was a large report in the early 2000s about water quality absolutely nosediving after broke cities allowed their water supplies to be privatized.

diane:

I apologize Owen, I know the subject of some (whatever one wants to call them) disemboweling (have I spelled that correctly?) and gutting the very floor from underneath the feet ...when something might have been done to prevent it, is disconcerting, at the least; ...and it is, far easier to discuss those fleas, such as Mitt, ...than discuss the flea season that we are in.

LeonTrollski:

the water in my town was recently privatized and prices doubled, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

And import the water? Naaahhhh, Owen you get the extraction rights then sell it to the [i]Africans[/i].

diane:

That was the other part of that water report, the $$$$$extorting$$$$$$$ for survival by the private (mostly European, to my recollect) companies (along with the filthy water).

Unfortunately, "Government Owned [supposedly by us]" (not private) public resources, are being auctioned off for a quick and slimey fuck by our "Public RebubLibercRatarian Servants;" so that even when "our" government accesses the rights to survival resources, those rights are being rapidly whored off, .... to predators, ....and the citizens, .....are still fucked at the end of the day.

I would imagine, if the UZ seized water rights in Africa, the same thing would happen, ... those rights would ultimately be whored off to other predators.

Juan:

'mr businessman' around the corner may care to consider the arms sales possibilities just a
few years from now:

"All traffic into and out of the Black Sea goes through the Turkish Straits. The Tigris and Euphrates rivers begin in Anatolia, and thus Turkey controls the freshwater of Syria and Iraq."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LB23Ak03.html
FUN FUN FUN IN THE HOT MIDDLE EASTERN SUN

Diane - if you want instances of highly corrupt privatization, look into Mexico during the Salinas administration [1990s].

diane:

If you’re still checking, Juan, I haven’t forgotten your post, but I received such a huge hit of: CIA (three Ads); Susan Koman; The IRS (apparantley hiring abundantly in ASIA, though not the US); etcetera (which you likely don’t see if you have a subscription to Asia Times Online (discovered a few days ago that it is ad free, and that’s why subscribers don’t see the predominant CIA ads)), it set me back.

diane:

(and sigh, back to the subscription issue, ...there are differences, ...not laying any blame, ...BUT ...there are significant differences for those who don't have "subscriptions," especially since time to figure out and resolve is, generally, not in their favor at all.)

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