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By Owen Paine on Thursday September 23, 2010 07:47 PM

Are we headed for a two-year hung House next winter?

Gee, I bet the White House hopes so. Better for them if one or the other chamber is in nominal GOP hands. After due consideration, and two sips of lemonade, I think it's better the House go elephant. Don't you? I mean, all things considered?

Imagine the noble poses Ohbummer can strike as the Republican House yahoos block his every essay into recovery, relief, restructuring, and reform.

Oh, hell, who knows what Clio has in store for us all? Maybe we get a period of cataclysmic convulsions. Or on the other hand -- as they say at the New York Times -- the run-up to '12 may be a new time of triangle playing for the Democrat mangement team. Maybe less like the famous Clinton-Morris triangles of 95-96, and more like Harry's in 47-48. The ole mass murderer from Missouri triangulated left, not right, with the rump of the New Deal, then now out of power but fixin' to go third-party. It was all talk, of course, but effective.

Then again, Harry wasn't all talk. His boys were fast building the software of the national security state, and at the same time saving Western Europe for the MNCs.

What is Ohbummer gonna be doing, on the same scale as stopping Uncle Joe in his tracks?

Comments (37)

"What is Ohbummer gonna be doing, on the same scale as stopping Uncle Joe in his tracks"

Oh Oh... I have a list!

- Fluffing his buddies on Wall Street
- Propping up the health insurance industry
- Gutting Social Security
- Busting Unions (always great fun for DLC types)
- Expanding the National Security State
- Ordering the murder of more American citizens with no trial or due process
- Making noise about supporting gay rights while never actually, you know... doing so
- Talking a good game on carbon emissions but never actually, you know... doing anything about them.
- Throwing more lefties under the bus
- Holding more $30k per plate fund raisers with his Corporate Crony buddies
- Sneering at his supporters while taking their votes for granted
- Fucking this country up and fiddling while the country burns.
- Ignoring the need to develop alternative energy sources because hey, that would piss off the oil barons and we can't have that.

Need I go on? Because I could...

Emma:

Or, maybe he could start another war? I still think all our problems could be solved if we could only find the right war :[

(I was particularly impressed with Obama's recently-filed objection to repealing DADT, which has been declared unconstitutional. That was a classic 43 maneuver, right there. Reminds me of home.)

Op-san, are you being straight here? You see the creation of the excuse of R control as somehow a good thing? Personally, I hope the Dimbots squeak out a majority and have to eat 4 more years of truth about their nature.

Not likely, but that's my hope.

Am I talking myself into actually voting now, in a backward way?.....Elect Dims to help them finish proving themselves...

I think Dawson's right. We need to let the Donkle work out their fantasy of being the Houyhnhnms comparing themselves to the Yahoos.

Sadly, the real Yahoos aren't the Republicans, but the people who continue supporting the Donkle come Hades or tsunami.

op:

md and oxy

i agree
i was taking the view from atop
the white house portico

as to dp's dire list

a good emperor must on occasion
crack a few eggs
but is tha truly activism

now picking a shootin' fight
with iran
that would be showing
the right stuff indeed

clinton might have done that
in ohbummer's spot
but ohbummer hizzseff
like carter before him
is too earnest
to make it work for him

op:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/opinion/24krugman.html?_r=1

krugbucks
cringes and mimics hysterics

cringe of distain:
"Never mind the war on terror, the party’s
(gop) main concern seems to be the war on arithmetic."

bridge fact:

" And this party has a better than even chance of retaking at least one house of Congress this November."
mimiced hysterics:

"Banana republic, here we come"

back up facts from gop's
marshall plan to rehabilitate a shacken wealth class

on average a 70 billion per year
increases in deficit --high income h folks tax cut retention--
holy cow bat girl the chains of debt peonage thicken !!!

http://scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist/upload/2009/04/anatomy_of_isiss_morning/yvonne_craig_as_batgirl_01.jpg


no real cutting of spending

clincher line

" the only way to balance the budget by 2020, while simultaneously (a) making the Bush tax cuts permanent and (b) protecting all the programs Republicans say they won’t cut, is to completely abolish the rest of the federal government"
he quotes some pot smokin numbers guy
on the impact of this big axe prosepect

"“No more national parks, no more Small Business Administration loans, no more export subsidies, no more N.I.H. No more Medicaid ...No more child health or child nutrition programs. No more highway construction. No more homeland security. Oh, and no more Congress.”


which amounts to saying
'forget about it jack'
not goin nowhere

this is pure party agitprop

pk's motive is simple

startle the pwog herd
into a stampede to the ballot booth in november
to pull the jack ass lever
and prevent ...
umh more lies video tapes and gas releases from the trunk of the Elephant

well then we here at Smbiva
have our reasons for wanting that also according to some here
and i agree

Battle cry :

"ake the Dems responsible
for the next two more years of this
stag-misery "

so stop me b4 i shirk again

vote back in

la Nan from Fran


http://snooperreport.com/storage/pelosi/Pelosi%203%20Boobs.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1242549736646

she and her posse
need to take ....the full wrap

op:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/opinion/24krugman.html?_r=1

paul k

works up the hysterics

"Never mind the war on terror, the party’s main concern seems to be the war on arithmetic. And this party has a better than even chance of retaking at least one house of Congress this November.

Banana republic, here we come....

No more national parks, no more Small Business Administration loans, no more export subsidies, no more N.I.H. No more Medicaid (one-third of its budget pays for long-term care for our parents and others with disabilities). No more child health or child nutrition programs. No more highway construction. No more homeland security. Oh, and no more Congress.”

of course this " “pledge,” then, is nonsense. But isn’t that true of all political platforms? The answer is, not to anything like the same extent"

great nonsense on the horizon ??

rush to the votin booth pwogies
to avoid this nonsense
we need two more years of la nan

http://woody.typepad.com/files/nancy_pelosi_cleavage.jpg

re elect la nan !!!!
her melons and her mule train

make the jack ass fuckers
take the whole wrap
for this stag party

stop me b4 i fail to vote again !!!

Al Schumann:

Obama's most consistent trait is a long, drawn out search for patsies. It gives him something that can characterized as an air of deliberation and a search for compromise, however feckless the compromise may be. That's misleading, though. He's just a weasel with a status quo to defend and an endless need for patsies. Both his closest aides, Axelrod and Emanuel, are completely campaign-focused DLC marketing monkeys. They're driven by corporate fund raising panic. The flow of campaign money is their gauge for judging policy.

They've achieved everything they were supposed to achieve. The corporate mandate was emergency resuscitation of FIRE and putting smiley faces on the occupations. Maybe there's a little fine tuning to be done, some smaller looting sprees, but their eyes are already on the horizon, where speaking fees and sinecures flourish in the corporate pastures. The money flows are already headed towards the Republicans. So there's no point doing anything that would endanger post-presidential ambitions.

Geoff:

Owen, you've pretty much summed up the Master Plan. Though I suspect the Tea Party is a more unruly beast than anyone's bargained for, especially the Triangulators.

op:

to be fair
pk goes on to state his real fear if the elephant gains top seats on the hill

a nation suddenly
"ungovernable "!!!

"the clear and present danger isn’t that the G.O.P. will be able to achieve its long-run goals. It is, rather, that Republicans will gain just enough power to make the country ungovernable, unable to address its fiscal problems or anything else in a serious way. As I said, banana republic, here we come. "

unable to deal with its "fiscal problems "???

what "fiscal problems "paul ??

that strikes me as a throw away line
filled with half hearted
crowd baiting crowd pleasing prejudice enhancing opportunism

after all he knows we need bigger deficits now
and that
we have time
to solve our fiscal balance problem
better by far we fix em
in no less then 6 years
rather then during the next 2

what's the rush ??

and he must mean budget problems
here
not effective demand problems
??? right?

effective demand increases thru deficit increases
isn't called fiscal problems
its called fiscal opportunities

bad show all around pk

doing the Dembot hop
is not your best dance step

op:

Al i suspect the ohbummer plan involves a second term
rahm may move on
as larry will
but the ohbummer circus wants to stay
at the big house

yes we have carter post 78
as well as clinton post 94
and truman post 46

johnson after the back lash of 66
only saw worse problems
that led to a chicken out
as did
truman after the election of november 50
oh ya truman had a second shock
in late '50 now didn't he

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/23/77723-050-D06420E3.jpg

http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/images4/Korean-map-Chosin-Res-2.jpg

maybe bigger then LBJ's in winter ' 68 ??
but what do i know

at the time i was a taft republican of three

only kennedy escaped the outlook from
post 62
by other means

lots to mull here for the party pros

starting with a left challenge i think

op:

according to the familly album
of the lesser paines
this was my reaction to the news of the chicom break thru


http://static.open.salon.com/files/5776_107795177041_729302041_2058433_4733041_n1251485786.jpg

snap taken
by 6 year old
sally 'kodak ' paine

Obama will win a 2d term simply because of what he represents.

The lib-pwog mindset can be stroked and soothed with reminders: first Black POTUS, health care "reform", stimulus!, and the real big winner that everyone here at SMBIVA seems to know without contemplation, lookit those wingnut Evil Rethuglicans over there! Sarah Palin!.

Libbies and pwoggies love their symbolism, especially the type that marks them as superior. This alone will carry Obama into Term No. 2 and I would not be surprised to see, circa 2014, a push to change the Constitution to allow 3 terms or more.

Humans are seriously shallow, insecure and stupid creatures. I know. I am one.

op:

on re -viewing dp's list


"Gutting Social Security"

why would that be a serious neolib objective ??

privatizing a big hunk of it appealed to clinton

but much water has flowed over the dam
since 1997 eh ??
a little down the road entitlement trim ??
maybe
but gut it
why ??

might he uncap the tax that supplies it ??

up for grabs i think
and all this would be after 12 not b4
we'll have another crack at throw the bums out
b4 the donk new deal castration rituals take another serious step

medicare/medicaid and the rest
of the health social cost tumor
might not wait however
so we'll see about
"Propping up the health insurance industry"
my guess this could pose quite a lot of back and forth between the two party cores
real studio rasslin'
Hatfield McCoy material there...
for '14 if by plan
but maybe by '12 if the temptation is deemed
too great to resist
by one or other party brain clique

busting unions ???

now you are letting the donks play repugs
why ??

the donks are the fearless feckless letter of the law defenders of our right to collective gargaining
its a brand issue

skipping a few
old ACLU chestnuts
like legal murders
and gays and wire taps

"Talking a good game on carbon emissions but never actually, you know... doing anything about them....(plus)..Ignoring the need to develop alternative energy sources because hey, that would piss off the oil barons and we can't have that"


hmmm a bit high pitched that ...no ??

i'll pass on the strength of the big energy lobby at the WH ..
but my guess they're not at the head of the line there

i'll suggest maybe in a interval
of idle docketry the prez unleashes
the green side of hope

can anyone really tell
the difference between
a big honest futile push
and a big fraudulent futile fuss

i suspect one or the other will be made
but which really matters not at all

for the sake of the larger pwog base
something green will be worn at the WH
at some point

no pleasing us SMBIVA ers on that front
anyway
short of a ban on combustion itself

continuing at random

this troika makes me cackle

" Throwing more lefties under the bus
- Holding more $30k per plate fund raisers with his Corporate Crony buddies
- Sneering at his supporters while taking their votes for granted"

do we deserve better ???

u gotta raise hell if you want respect

ask black folks
-----

"Fucking this country up and fiddling while the country burns"
who's country ??

yours
old black joes
an undoc's
an auto worker's
or
bob rubin's amerika ????

can anyone really tell
the difference between
a big honest futile push
and a big fraudulent futile fuss

The difference is in which person's perspective you use to gauge the characterization.

From the position of BHOPOTUS44 or Rahmbo, it's always big fraudulent futile fussing.

From the pwog perspective, it's a big honest futile push AND the best we can do right now.

op:

"Humans are seriously shallow, insecure and stupid creatures. I know. I am one"

something in my pecker
tells me
there's a fallacy of reflectivity
in there some where oxy

where'd u find that bit of word play
anyhow ??

must be a proposition
constructed after carefull
ship in a bottle type detailed cofashioning

and
by no one less then

a jesuit trained brain
gone heavy dark side

same guy type
that does stuff like this too
http://www.myfreegraphics.com/images/fulls/2.2.jpg

only too many
naughty naughty finger wags
at a young enough age
from severely but secretly wet nuns
can nurture
this degree of fair haired boy
substance abuse driven
later life diabolics

op:

oh oxy
mayb be there's some of the reverse
now and then too eh ??

where From the position of POTUS
it's a case of big honest futile push

meeting
a soured pwog perspective
of it's a big fraudulent futile fuss


cynicism can be
as unrighteously contagious
as innocent credulity is endemic

CR:

If the Republicans win Congress, they'll have to at least make a show of impeaching Obama.

The Teabagger base isn't going to roll over and play dead the way liberals did when Nancy Pelosi took impeachment "off the table" for Bush.

It is very, very, very important for a large section of the Teabag base that Obama not be allowed to finish out his term.

Since the Republicans will probably take the House and keep the Senate, they'll impeach Obama in the House and the Senate will fail to remove him from office.

That's the best of all possible world for the Republicans.

Then they can run Chris Christie/Snooki in 2012.

The fallacy of phallus-y? The doric columns of your verbal architecture?

Ribbit du Midi:

Fish calling the water wet, M. Charles.

Soy cazador, no soy pescador.

From the position of POTUS
it's a case of big honest futile push

meeting
a soured pwog perspective
of it's a big fraudulent futile fuss

Sure. But I submit that's the same exact thing as how I characterized it. Honest futility is fraudulent, eh? And pwogs honestly accept fraud as "the best we can do now."

CR:

Um, I mean the best case scenario for the Republicans would be to take the House while the Democrats keep the Senate.

Then they can impeach him in the House, and continue to stoke their base to a white hot rage when the Senate doesn't remove him from office.

If they just impeach him and remove him it will probably mean Hillary in 2012.

But if they impeach him and DON'T remove him, they can take the White House in 2012.

Look for a lot of handwringing on the liberal blogs when Lieberman, Snowe, and Collins are key figures to stroke in order to keep Obama in office.

Nelson and a few other dems may vote to remove.

Anonymous:

!?!
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/09/24-10
!?

What does it mean, Ralph?

"Can't call me The Spoiler any more!"

That's what it means.

Mr. Natch:

It means that the Democrats didn't do anything with the strong position they were in after the last election, and the voter who voted for change then should run headlong into that brick wall again in November. The traditional definition of insanity.

The Dems were sure lucky that they didn't get 66 seats in the Senate in the '08 election. And we were unlucky. The sight of them crawling through their own recta to avoid doing anything helpful would have been one for the ages.

OP says:

"why would that be a serious neolib objective ??

privatizing a big hunk of it appealed to clinton

but much water has flowed over the dam
since 1997 eh ??
a little down the road entitlement trim ??
maybe
but gut it
why ??"

Look at the folks that Obama appointed to the entitlement reform commission, aka the "catfood commission". They're not neoliberal and neither is Obama.

They would gut it because social security is the one remaining program that makes us lower class slackabouts think the government might not be all evil and completely useless. One of the great objectives of the elites these days (and I don't divide them into neo-liberal or whatever, to me it's us vs them) is to completely absolve the government of any responsibility to its citizens. To complete the transformation of this country into a banana republic, a kleptocracy in which wealth is transferred in one direction only, upwards.

Why would they do it? Maybe their fucking evil.

op:

"Maybe their fucking evil"

gosh how do they live with themselves then

its about good vs evil that's clear enough

god sure makes our choices plain

no wonder he has a hell fire
for the wrong choice pack
they know their evil
or at least they oughta by now
look at what they have produced
these past few hundred years

op:

"completely absolve the government
of any responsibility to its citizens"

reverse the new deal
and the Dembots are in on it
up to their adams apples
the neo lib swine !!!!

westerby:

what a depressing thread! Come on lads, there must be something in your neighborhood that needs protesting. Put up a fight; stop taking this shit; let the air out of some fat-cats tires. During Vietnam, a friend and I, feeling guilty about our grad school deferment, tried to burn a peace-sign in the green of a local golf-course. It failed to catch on and all we achieved was a yellow half circle (which we might have accomplished by just pissing on the grass), but it felt like an honorable attempt.

MJS:

Westerby is onto something. We can't do as much as we would like, at the moment, but at least we can stop traffic for a minute or two. And this is not such a small thing.

op:

join the union movement
attack the corporations thru their job force

if you succeeed you cause more hell
then anything else

the unions today are short of funds
bodies
and fighting souls

Screed:

No more than 85 cents of each Social Security benefit dollar is taxable federally, I have discovered to my dismay (after not paying attention for many years). Yikes!

Of course, if one has no other source of income, none of the benefits are taxable. Yipee!

And yet it seems that the tax bite for Social Security is based on all the individual's annual earned income up to $102,000. Seems that for modest earners (lifts hand) these benefits are getting whacked twice as compared to the pre-tax set-asides that withered so greatly in 08-09.

Maybe not quite twice (85/100 max taxability vs. 100/100 max taxability)

So now they wanna raise the full retirement age. The worn out with work and the unhealthy from the workplace can then take a permanently reduced benefit when they have to retire 'early'. But they probably won't have to pay much or any tax on those reduced benefits since they are unlikely to have much in the way of other retirement income. Yipee!

Today age 62 is 'earliest' and any age < 66 is 'early'. 62 will be even 'earlier' if full retirement age gets pushed back again.

I wonder aloud: where are the frequent busses and numerous efficiency apartments and health clinics and, indeed, the inexpensive eating halls that could serve the creaking baby boomers on their reduced and potentially taxable SSB's?

I have the (high-sugared) piss. Where is the grass and what shape is the protest symbol?


op:

most nice people don't know the fun of attacking a corporate mangement team
mano a mano
if you have hacking skills consider this

IT systems sabotage
is the new dynamite
and on the otherside of the ring
cell phones and the internet
are an unprecedented leap
in co ordination technology

no it isn't 1937 or even 1931
but a punch is still a punch
the sight of malicious intent
goes a long way to sober up
a management team
shifted into hyper excessive
exploitation mode

op:

Screed
organizing the post 55 crowd is a great avenue for action these days
its community work not job site work of course
and as such
not to my taste
but its got jazz in it
as has the default gimmick
the walk away from it all movement
or
the long term unemployed movement
or the won't vacate movement
fun can be had by all here
just find where the local action is
or start some

op:

mjs and i knew a guy ..one guy who raised more hell among slum lords in manhattan
then a battalion of goo goos

they killed him of course ..eventually
he got too good at it
but don't let anyone tell you
a couple lawless resolutes can't
learn to make
big mischiefs and small mercies

Emma:

Or, maybe he could start another war? I still think all our problems could be solved if we could only find the right war... :[

I actually had a self-proclaimed "life-long" Democrat ask aloud the other day: Where did the anti-war movement go?

At this late date, the guy still doesn't get it. Even though he's at least a decade older than me.

I sent him a couple of links to Green sites and to Cindy Sheehan's page and then crept away in despair.

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