It was up for about an hour and a half late last night, and accumulated sixty-odd comments before 'hunter', that unsleeping Dzerzhinsky of the netroots, dropped the hammer. I saved it here, though, along with all the comments.
As usual, the pathos of the experience was the number of people who apparently know better but still can't tear themselves away from this maelstrom of futility. My post contained a poll:
PollJust how disgusting is [Edwards' performance for the Israelis]?
60 votes
Not at all -- I agree 100% 6% -- 4 votes Hey, be realistic. Cut the guy some slack 20% -- 12 votes Mildly disgusting, but I'd still vote for him if he was the nominee 6% -- 4 votes Intensely disgusting -- I almost barfed -- but I'd still vote for him if he was the nominee 20% -- 12 votes I actually did barf, but I'd still vote for him if, etc. 6% -- 4 votes Enough is enough. I've had it. 40% -- 24 votes
A majority acknowledged nausea; 2/5 said they'd "had it." On a more depressing note, there was a lot of fatuous huffing and puffing over my pseudonym. No sense of humor, these people.
JSP some time ago noted that fifteen minutes trolling Kos is probably time well spent, since it makes the Kosserei burn up untold democrat-hours berating you, speculating about your troll status, pulling accounts, blocking IP addresses, etc. -- time they could be spending trying to elect Democrats. Better they do almost anything than that. (The other thing they do is elaborate an esoteric argot -- what does "to freep" mean? Or "to fisk"? This is at least creative, in a modest way.)
I was, of course, delighted that it was 'hunter' himself who liquidated the martyr hamaschick. It's always funny when you meet in the 3-D world people you formerly knew only online. Before I went to Daily Kos last year, I had a mental image of 'hunter' that owed a lot to Tab Hunter:
Comments (13)
Well, fisk (v.) originated with warbloggers and their ancient obsession with "debunking," line-by-line, everything Robert Fisk has ever said. As far as I know.
Libloggers probably adopted it because they think Fisk is a nasty anti-Semitic enemy of freedom, too.
Freeping has something to do with famed right-wing site Free Republic.
Was there any actual justification of the deletion of your post? I mean, it seems like there was substantial agreement with it amongst the Kosniks. Was it just because Hunter disagreed with the post? I mean, that'd be in line with well-loved Kosian tradition.
Posted by Djur | January 25, 2007 1:13 PM
Posted on January 25, 2007 13:13
I approve highly of that "Roughing the candidate" flag. It fits in perfectly with the Kosnik concept of politics as sports, and the Democrats as their team.
That "College Kossack" guy, too, reminded me of the tsar's Cossacks. Can we get him in a recreation of the stairs of Odessa? All revolutionaries must me destroyed!
Posted by Rowan | January 25, 2007 1:19 PM
Posted on January 25, 2007 13:19
father smiff
they sense your power...and they fear it
Posted by owen paine | January 25, 2007 2:01 PM
Posted on January 25, 2007 14:01
reading kos comments
is harrowing for me
its very personal
i lack our Father's
assured sense of a place
in the next life
i think this is what would confront me
if the chips were down
checking the names the prosecutors were only three or four regulars all making multiple posts
of a sort of dart in dart out stab style
ritual blows no doubt
its seriously interesting the stuff reads like chat booth stuff
i think its not comments
so much as a panel discussion
oh if i had but time enough
to see how many of these troll hunters
they have
perhaps bro paine was wrong
and it takes only a few
a stout stalwart ever ready few
not the actions of the whole village
to keep the trolls out
why does my gut say
they must be loosing readership by now
curiosity swing thrus may be up
but trog dog fights are clearly down
as these folks seem to say
the trolls no longer stand and fight
which makes sense if you get zapped faster and faster by
the hunter
Posted by owen paine | January 25, 2007 2:25 PM
Posted on January 25, 2007 14:25
father smiff
don't he look like a guy
who coulda gone to our
alma mater : mangrove tech ????
Posted by royal paine | January 25, 2007 6:46 PM
Posted on January 25, 2007 18:46
Royal -- He does, I fear. The difference is, that he would go to the reunions, and we don't.
Posted by MJS | January 25, 2007 10:14 PM
Posted on January 25, 2007 22:14
Djur -- I think the basis for removing the post, and the account, and all memory of it except a few ghostly echoes in comment search, was that it was written by a person who wasn't on board with the site's program -- which is, to elect Democrats.
They're really quite admirably open and explicit about this, and I don't in the least object to them policing their own reservation, any more than you can object when your neighbor shows a fondness for garden gnomes.
At the same time, I do love stirring 'em up, as Richard Nixon once memorably said, and I figure that too is part of the game.
Posted by MJS | January 25, 2007 10:24 PM
Posted on January 25, 2007 22:24
Reminds me a little of having a pizza delivered the other night... not the delivery guy mind you (I've too much respect for the service sector working class for that!), but the lukewarm pepperoni, the congealed mozzarella, the little pools of grease.
Posted by gluelicker | January 26, 2007 12:51 AM
Posted on January 26, 2007 00:51
Michael, your hamaschick link seems to be dead now.
Would you mind reposting it, because I would love to see it.
Posted by yaz | January 26, 2007 5:12 PM
Posted on January 26, 2007 17:12
Odd; the link works for me:
http://stopmebeforeivoteagain.org/hamaschick.html
Posted by MJS | January 26, 2007 5:24 PM
Posted on January 26, 2007 17:24
Um, yeah. That was odd. Both links work for me now too. But thanks anyway.
Posted by yaz | January 26, 2007 6:14 PM
Posted on January 26, 2007 18:14
"Djur -- I think the basis for removing the post, and the account, and all memory of it except a few ghostly echoes in comment search, was that it was written by a person who wasn't on board with the site's program -- which is, to elect Democrats.
They're really quite admirably open and explicit about this, and I don't in the least object to them policing their own reservation, any more than you can object when your neighbor shows a fondness for garden gnomes."
I agree, Kos deserves points for honesty. I wish that we could say the same for The Nation.
Posted by VAGreen | January 26, 2007 9:20 PM
Posted on January 26, 2007 21:20
Maybe Hamaschick doesn't appreciate that the candidates are on a learning curve too. In two years, he will have realized that advocating nuking Iran was a mistake, although we will definitely have to take some sort of action against Syria by then.
Posted by Bullwinkle | January 28, 2007 8:05 AM
Posted on January 28, 2007 08:05